Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Misclick

It's worth taking a moment to celebrate a session where everything goes right, since most of what shows up in a blog is just reflections on badly played hands, tough spots, and cold decks. Those bad sessions are the times when you're given to reflection, when you are wont to self-examine and seek explanation, and ultimately to avoid a future bad streak.

Out of the 14 flops that I saw with pocket pairs, I flopped sets on 5 of them, and turned a set on another one. But it was frustrating, since I was getting no action on my sets, until finally I got paid off on this one:


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BB: 85.60 BB
UTG: 4.96 BB
CO: 127.52 BB
Hero (BTN): 259.56 BB
SB: 109.60 BB
Pre-Flop: 6 6 dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, Hero raises to 3.4BB, SB folds, BB calls 2.4BB

Flop: (7.2BB) 7 2 6 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 6BB, BB calls 6BB
Gotta bet your sets, especially here, since so many overpairs and small suited connectors will pay for it.

Turn: (19.2BB) 7 2 6 [ J ] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 14BB, BB calls 14BB

River: (47.2BB) 7 2 6 J [ 2 ] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 40BB, BB calls 40BB
Perfect river, and a big 3rd barrel for value. If he hasn't believed me for 2 streets, why would he now?

Results: 127.2BB Pot (6.36BB Rake)
BB mucked T T (two pair, Tens and Twos) and LOST (-63.4BB NET)
Hero showed 6 6 (a full house, Sixes full of Twos) and WON 120.84BB (+57.44BB NET)
That was pretty standard, but indicative how well I was running. But this was even better...

2 hands against the same villain, this hand came first:

ull Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
SB: 15.12 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 141.96 BB
Hero (MP): 120.24 BB
CO: 82.68 BB
BTN: 66.12 BB
Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls 1BB, Hero raises to 4.4BB, CO folds, BTN raises to 66.12BB and is All-In, 3 folds,
Hero?

I'm actually pretty psyched to get it in here, since donks will NEVER make this push with either of the 2 hands that dominate me. There's probably a 65% chance that he has a middlish pocket pair, like 99-JJ, a 10% chance he has AK, and the remaining 25% is an A-x hand that I dominate. Easy call.
...
Hero calls 61.72BB

Flop: (134.64BB) 4 2 A (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (134.64BB) 4 2 A [ J ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (134.64BB) 4 2 A J [ K ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 134.64BB Pot (6.72BB Rake)
Hero showed A K (two pair, Aces and Kings) and WON 127.92BB (+61.8BB NET)
BTN showed J A (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and LOST (-66.12BB NET)

Super sweaty turn, but a sweet resuck on the river.

Then, 4 hands later, I peg him as a little tilty and pick up AK again....


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
BTN: 14.72 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 140.96 BB
Hero (UTG): 182.04 BB
MP: 82.68 BB
CO: 100 BB
Pre-Flop: K A dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to 3.4BB, MP calls 3.4BB, CO raises to 15BB, 3 folds, Hero raises to 182.04BB and is All-In, MP folds, CO calls 85BB and is All-In

Flop: (204.8BB) K K Q (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (204.8BB) K K Q [ 4 ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (204.8BB) K K Q 4 [ 7 ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 204.8BB Pot (10.24BB Rake)
Hero showed K A (three of a kind, Kings) and WON 194.56BB (+94.56BB NET)
CO showed J J (two pair, Kings and Jacks) and LOST (-100BB NET)

Double-scoop! Up 2 buy-ins within 4 hands, and by the grace of AK! That's a pretty good sign that you're running hot.

But the real kicker came here...


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
UTG: 207.44 BB
MP: 93.28 BB
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 60.52 BB
SB: 75 BB
Hero (BB): 221.96 BB
Pre-Flop: 9 6 dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, BTN calls 1BB, SB calls 0.6BB, Hero checks

Flop: (3BB) Q T 8 (3 Players) <-- Low-end double gutter, worth a bet to try to take it down
SB checks,
Hero bets 220.96BB and is All-In, <-- Oh Damn! Misclick shove!! Please don't let anyone have a hand.
...
BTN folds, <-- Phew!
SB calls 74BB and is All-In <-- No! I'm an idiot.
SB shows T Q
I still have 8 straight outs.

Turn: (151BB) Q T 8 [ 9 ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (151BB) Q T 8 9 [ 9 ] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Or runner runner trips outs!!

Results: 151BB Pot (7.52BB Rake)
SB showed T Q (two pair, Queens and Tens) and LOST (-75BB NET)
Hero showed 9 6 (three of a kind, Nines) and WON 143.48BB (+68.48BB NET)

Karma says the next post will involve some brutal suckouts against, not for. Til then.

2 comments:

spritpot said...

lol misclickaments...the first hand you might want to try just shoving the river, since it looks really bluffy on your part, you could have AK or 89 or something, you can't really credibly rep a deuce, and he pretty obviously has a one-pair hand he doesn't want to lay down. You got in a nice big barrel, but I think if he calls 40 bbs he calls 60 bbs at least 2/3 of the time, which is how often you'd need him to call to make shoving better than betting 40 bbs.
-bruechips

noldmax said...

Bruechips,

Interesting thought, but is it really accurate to think about river value betting in that way? I mean, I can generally understand the concept of leaning towards big river value bets, since the type of hands that will call 1/2-3/4 pot will also call full pot. But by your logic, does that also mean that we should be overbetting the pot more frequently for value on the end? Or does it only apply here b/c it happens that the rest of my stack isn't much bigger than the pot, and an all-in shove looks bluffier than an oversized pot river bet would?

My tendency is to make my river value bets look like normal bets, in the 1/2-3/4 range, so as not to set off any bells, and to be consistent with my bluffs (which are almost never pot-sized).

Perhaps the key point is that there is probably a betting amount over which bells go off for most reasonable players (which may exclude most of 25NL), and I tend to think that a PSB is that line. So does betting over the pot cause players to think harder and maybe throw away marginal hands here that they would call a "normal" bet with? Maybe. But given the 2/3 number, it's probably borderline and could go either way. It's a good thought and something I will consider in future hands.