Hand 1
Villain is 20/15/2.3 over 81 hands
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BB: 46.72 BB
UTG: 40.24 BB
CO: 154.36 BB
BTN: 151 BB
Hero (SB): 152.64 BB
Pre-Flop: A
A
dealt to Hero (SB)UTG folds, CO raises to 3.4BB, BTN folds, Hero raises to 12BB, BB folds, CO raises to 28.8BB, Hero calls 16.8BB
Flop: (58.6BB) K
K
8 (2 Players)Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: (58.6BB) K
K 8 [ 9 ] (2 Players)Hero bets 36BB, CO calls 36BB
River: (130.6BB) K
K 8 9 [ T ] (2 Players)Hero?
The obvious drawback to taking a tricky line with AA is that there are all kinds of flops that put you in awkward positions, especially OOP. (Which is not to mention the scary flops that kill action and cap your take)
Although AK is a prominent part of my opponent's range, I expect him to either continue on the flop or raise my turn bet. When he calls my turn bet, it's most likely that he is just looking for a cheap showdown, although there's a remote chance that he may be setting me up to get it in on the river with AK.
The river is a not-so-great T, leaving only JJ and QQ as hands that I beat. If I check here, I can usually expect JJ or QQ to check behind, since both hands still have some showdown value, and since my opponent has to be concerned that I am holding something like AK, TT, 99. Given this, I think that there is a good case for check-folding the river.
However, my thinking instead went like this - I look so weak if I check that I open myself to a river bluff, which I will probably have to call. Therefore, I prefer to shove myself and possibly get crying call value from QQ. Also, by shoving, I avoid having to make a tough decision if my opponent value bets or shoves.
But since there is almost no part of his range that is bluffing (a desperately remote chance of AQs??), does that make check/fold a better river line?
Rodney suggested betting 1/3 pot and folding to a raise. I feel that if you are going to take this line, you might as well check/fold, since it's so hard for a worse hand to call, and you're folding quite a bit to shoves.
Bruechips suggested 1/2 pot (and call shove) or shove. If you are trying to get value from QQ/JJ, maybe 1/2 pot is better than shoving.
Ron suggested 1/3 pot or check. All different answers. Anyone want to make a case against check-folding? Is it just too weak?
Hero bets 87.84BB and is All-In, CO folds
Results: 130.6BB Pot (6.52BB Rake)
Hero mucked A
A and WON 124.08BB (+59.28BB NET)-------------------------------------------------------
Hand 2
Villain is 18/11/0.9 over 140 hands
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: 35.92 BB
BB: 100.52 BB
UTG: 117 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 143.32 BB
Hero (BTN): 227.36 BB
Pre-Flop: Q
K dealt to Hero (BTN)UTG raises to 3.4BB, 2 folds, Hero calls 3.4BB, SB calls 3BB, BB folds
Flop: (11.2BB) Q
5 4 (3 Players)SB checks, UTG bets 7BB, Hero calls 7BB, SB folds
Turn: (25.2BB) Q
5 4 [ 5 ] (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero checks
River: (25.2BB) Q
5 4 5 [ 6 ] (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets 15BB,
UTG raises to 60BB,
Hero?
Everyone suggested fold here, but this raise just didn't make sense to me. If the villain makes a big hand on the river (or already had something like QQ), I figure he has to lead, since there's a good chance that I check behind with my likely range - Qx/77-JJ. A solid hand like AA/KK/AQ/JJ/TT probably calls rather than raising. On top of that, the raise was suspiciously big, almost full pot size. It seemed to me that he was putting me on something mediocre, making a weakish value bet, and decided to pounce.
So, I called. All commenters called this an easy fold. How leaky is my call?
Hero calls 45BB
Results: 145.2BB Pot (7.24BB Rake)
UTG showed J
A (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-70.4BB NET)Hero showed Q
K (two pair, Queens and Fives) and WON 137.96BB (+67.56BB NET)First winning session in quite a while. It felt nice.
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